ABC, its easy as 123..
Poly Means Many: There are many aspects of polyamory. Each month seven bloggers ALBJ, Delightfully Queer, An Open Book, More Than Nuclear, Post Modern Sleaze, Rarely Wears Lipstick, and The Boy With The Inked Skin will write about their views on one of them. This month we’re talking about “labels and hierarchies”.
When you’re monogamous, labels and hierarchies aren’t necessarily something you need to consider. The labels are often culturally set and the hierarchy is a given “us vs them”. Your partner is the one person you commit to sticking with above all others. Whilst this is certainly not always easy in practise (particularly in the cases of conflicts between a partner and best friend, or partner and family!) we tend to find that the assumption, and its outcomes, serve monogamy very well indeed. Why? Because we have a common understanding of what monogamy means.
When you’re non-monagamous, however, this can become vastly more complex and what’s complex to define on paper can quickly become impossible to define in practise. It is probably safe to say that “labels and hierarchies*” is the trickiest most fraught subject out there and I have a few theories as to why…
The Party Line
We’ve spoken before about the many ways you can interpret ethical non-monogamy; from the disputed “dont-ask-don’t-tell” through swinging, open relationships, polyamory, and everything in-between. Most people understand the more physically driven forms, but one question that comes up time and time again as soon as you bring love into the equation is “but who do you (love/support/)want most”? Sure, it’s not always that blunt, but that’s the gist. That way of thinking is, of course, inherently monogamous. It defies the statements “my friends”, “my family” and “my children” exactly as much as “my partners” yet the idea that we can romantically-love and need 2+ people equally is a unique struggle. Even if we can accept that it’s possible to truly and wholly love more than one person, we wonder how we can physically commit to them in the same way that you can a single person. Again, though; friends, family and children set the precedent – of course it’s possible to love two people the same!
…Or that’s what I’d like to write.
The Nuanced Reality
Realistically we don’t love or commit to any two people the same way. We can’t. Love is a complex product of personality, shared experience, and biochemistry, it knows no boundaries whilst commitments are sometimes unilateral, legally restricted, or not always suitable or possible.
We may love people equally, we can’t love them the same.
If you’ve known your partner for much less time than your metamour has, your relationship may be as strong but the roots won’t be as deep. If you don’t live with your partner but your metamour does, your relationship might miss some of the more day-to-day entanglements… These differences don’t need to mean it’s any more or less important a relationship – just that there’s some practical differences. It’s clear that if these two relationships are important and sustaining in the present they should, absolutely, be afforded the same respect – but isn’t it also fair to distinguish between them somehow?
Additionally, sometimes the relationships aren’t equal either. Sometimes there is a deliberate hierarchy that is agreed upon and needed in both cases. Maybe both partners in the relationship have other more involved relationships, maybe one partner is looking for more freedom, lighter levels of commitment, or to focus more on a career. Isn’t is fair that these relationships too are afforded respect for exactly what they are – no more, no less? Again though, how to distinguish between them?
ABC, As Easy As 123?
Commonly poly folk speak of “Primary” “Secondary” and “Tertiary” partners. There are as many ways to define these as there are combinations of letters in the English language but broadly speaking I think most people would agree the following more-or-less encapsulates it:
- Primary partners: committed, usually live together, have shared assets and may be married and/or have children
- Secondary partners: committed, don’t usually live together or have shared assets, unlikely to be married or have children.
- Tertiary partners: less committed, more casual. Possibly adopting a more ‘FWB’ style arrangement.
My personal opinion is that every. single. argument. ever conducted in poly arises not from a particular dislike of those hierarchies or their implications, but a dissonance between either
a) The way they feel experientially and the situation evoked by the actual term used
b) The projection that primary and secondary relationships’ version of “commitment” must be different, and the reality that they aren’t
a) A Rose By Any Other Name..?
I’ve repeatedly said I dislike the term secondary. Whilst I am entirely happy with the definition proposed above the actual word, meaning “coming after, less important than, or resulting from someone or something else that is primary”, doesn’t accurately describe who and what I am to my partner and therefore I reject it. This gets messy when, by rejecting the word, it seems as if I am rejecting the definition. Of course, I could just accept the word but then I would need to either be satisfied that many people would misunderstand my situation, (by being mislead by the words common usage), or laboriously re-define the word for this context at every available opportunity. None of which are ideal. Hence conflict.
b) Committed vs committed
As defined above, the key difference between primary and secondary relationships is shared real-world assets, and the key difference between tertiary relationships and others is a casual informality. The problem arises when people impose an assumption that the commitment of a partner towards a secondary relationship is less than the commitment towards a primary relationship, thereby creating a primary, secondary, tertiary commitment scale that doesn’t exist. Again, a monogamous default and slightly loaded terminology leads us astray.
To me, the relationship between primary, secondary and tertiary relationships is not linear and not governed by a single quality (i.e. commitment). The only way I can think to explain is to suggest a race in which there was a fraction of a second between the gold and silver medalists and 10 seconds between the silver and the bronze, and the runners were racing on different track surfaces!
Conclusion
(very) Long story short, people want to be known. People need to be understood and above all seen as valid. When you adopt an uncommon stance in anything it’s natural to want to make sure that isn’t misunderstood or undersold.
Secondaries (who, lets face it, practically own the “labels and hierarchies” argument) just want the world to know that they are loved, that they’re not settling for less or being taken advantage of. Like any other relationship movement, they just want their love to be recognised and seen as equal.
To the naysayers: shutting us out and dismissing us allows some to hold on to the trappings of a monogamous mindset. I know this. Just understand; as a lack of comprehension of astrophysics doesn’t mean the moon isn’t shrinking, a reluctance to comprehend the breadth of love doesn’t mean I am not loved and supported with the same devotion as any monogamous or primary person. To think any differently, to dismiss me and my partners’ feelings as ‘immature’ ‘less than’ or ‘delusional’ is grossly narcissistic.
To non-secondary poly folk: remember, it’s secondaries who break the model. Secondaries who turn monogamy into poly. Secondaries who bear the brunt of the anger and pity, and secondaries who need this argument to be understood. Forgive us if we get ragy about it, sometimes.. :)
*autocorrect keeps trying to change hierarchies to “earaches” – I’m inclined to agree…
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Apologies if I haven’t taken your objections to the label “secondary” seriously before now. This helps explain a lot!
More and more I think that labels really suck. Analogies are clearly the way forward.
Very well balanced and well written. :) You provide points from either sides really well, and I particularly like the part about how the actual definition of secondary doesn’t tend to jive with what many poly people mean when they say it. The distinction is important! Love it. <3
“Remember, it’s secondaries who break the model. Secondaries who turn monogamy into poly” is a brilliant point, well encapsulated! Increasingly I wonder (as I’ve commented elsewhere) whether the words are a barrier to understanding, or whether ‘better’ words would solve the problem (less hierarchical/numerical? In conversation, I usually refer to my partner and my boyfriend – or occasionally, if I suspect someone might think I mean business partner or similar, my fiance and my boyfriend. If we totally invented words, would that help? If we repurposed different words – my purple partner and my green partner – would that just descend into ridiculousness? I think I’ve answered my own question…)
I once saw it described as this – here’s what happens if you find out you’ve got a promotion and have to move to a far-away city asap:
Primary partners say ‘When do we have to move by? Do you want me to book the van?’
Secondary partners say ‘When can I visit? How can we make a long-distance relationship work?’
Tertiary partners say ‘Our time together has been great! Give me a call if you visit in future.’
As ever, generalisations that are not necessarily helpful, but it grasps some of what’s sometimes going on…
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Me too! Great analogy!
The point that secondary partners get told by mainstream society that they are being used/their commitments aren’t real/they are deep down unhappy is a great one. Probably more of an issue for women, too! It makes me wonder if part of the fight to get polyamory accepted might be to justify and celebrate the non-primary relationships, rather than focusing all the time on how couples “open up”. A relationship doesn’t need to be heading to MORTGAGELAWNMOWERMARRIAGEBABIES! for it to be wonderful and fulfilling.
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Yes! That fits with Amanda’s point that non-primary relationships, of all shapes and types, are what *make it* poly rather than monogamy. Those relationships are awesome in themselves, whatever shape they take. A lot of the opening up stuff talks about the benefits to the central relationship, but I would find it weird to justify my non-primary relationships in terms of the benefits they might bring to my primary relationship – that has little if any relevance. They are awesome as completely self-contained relationships. Benefits from one relationship to another – in all kinds of directions – are purely incidental.
You see, I’ve heard before and *hate* that analogy!
Why the hell can’t a secondary partner come too?? I don’t mean to get ragey but it is exactly these kind of assumptions that I want to get rid of.
If J. got a promotion and was going to leave London, do any of you really think L. would up and leave her job and MA course to follow him, while I would stay here and just go visit them?
You ALL know real life doesn’t match these words, or these analogies, yet we keep using them and validating them – why?
The reason this makes me so sad, I think, is the suggestion that primary partners would do things for each other that they wouldn’t for secondaries, and secondaries for them. I would do anything for J&L. Just because I don’t share a mortgage or a bank account doesn’t mean I am any less committed. This is the same problem I talk about in the post. That analogy assumes my *commitment* is less. It’s not. I find it very hurtful to hear it suggested otherwise.
Does that shed some light? :)
(I can only explain this for *me* of course! Possibly no reflection on your situation.)
I don’t assume that a secondary partner *can’t* come too, but I do assume that they’d be less likely to be able to, and maybe even less likely to want to. If my secondary partner moved away, going with him would not be an option unless my whole family agreed to be uprooted – there isn’t really a choice in the matter. Whereas if my husband got a job far away, either I go too, or he just wouldn’t go. That’s the distinction for me.
This isn’t really about a level of commitment. If my husband moves across the country without consulting me and I just go with him whether I want to or not, I’m not committed, I’m a doormat! I don’t think the commitment is indicated by the person who moves or not, it’s indicated by how far the person who is moving consults and requires the consent of their partners to go.
I don’t know if that makes it more applicable to your situation or not!
Yes, It’s this assumption that I am drilling into:
“I do assume that they’d be less likely to be able to, and maybe even less likely to want to”
The ‘be able to’ – does that assume all secondaries have another primary somewhere? (Why else would they be less able to than a primary?) and, if so, is this a fair assumption?
The “less likely to want to” does sound a bit like you’re assuming a secondary is less committed than a primary partner – how else would you explain the difference? Secondaries can be doormats too!
Actually, to turn this back on you (and I know we’re only playing with an imperfect analogy): I think we’re all agreed that ‘not living together’ doesn’t equal ‘lack of commitment’ – so why would being unwilling or unable to uproot one’s life for a non-domestic partner signify a lesser commitment?
No, because I don’t equate desire with commitment! At least, that was what I was trying to get at. Commitment has to be negotiated, whereas desire is an emotion, and those aren’t really up for discussion. How we feel about someone might inform our commitments, but they aren’t the same thing. People can be committed to unhappy relationships, after all!
I don’t necessarily assume that the secondary has a primary, but even if they do not, I assume they are less able to uproot their life to move. If the practicalities of your life are tangled up with your partner’s, then going together would mean not having to untangle them (even if you still have to make big changes elsewhere). If you do not have any shared assets, then you would have to uproot just about *everything* in your life to go; hence, “less able”.
And that’s why I said ‘some of what’s sometimes going on’ – you’re right, it doesn’t fit your situation and your life, but it does cover how those words ate generally (not exclusively) used. One of the problems we keep hitting with terminology – the words are so limiting and blunt in relation to the complexity of possible relationship configurations. Given that one of the huge advantages of poly is to free you from assumptions of ‘this is how a relationship ought to look or progress’, I’d be surprised if more than a small minority actually conduct relationships that look exactly like classic primary/secondary hierarchical poly – but it doesn’t mean that understanding how the words are widely used (and how our relationships differ from them) is completely pointless. It just means that (like nonmonogamy as a whole) you can be ready to counter people’s false assumptions with your own truth and experience.
I agree completely but I still feel that terms and analogies like these, even used as generalisations, can be really hurtful and tend to be relied on most heavily by those they don’t apply to. I’m sure it’s not meant to come across as a demeaning “know your place” type of attitude (I’m tempted to use the phrase “Primary Privilege” but I’m worried you won’t all get the humour it’s intended with!) but i’d just ask that you could see how it *could* come across that way?
No, ok, that *is* a good point, about these being relied on most heavily by those they don’t apply to. You should totally throw Primary Privilege into the mix, too – then we could all have a big fake Internet-flounce, to be followed by make-up cuddles ;)
That’s the thing – basically, it’s always more complicated than that, whatever ‘that’ is. The domestic setup is not necessarily a reflection of commitment, of course not – even traditional monogamous marriages recognise this (eg jobs that take usually-the-man away for prolonged periods of time, if not the whole year, like oil rigs and the navy and stuff). And a couple of older women I know who are perfectly happy with monogamy, but have a theory that more marriages would last a lifetime if the two people involved lived in houses side by side.
“I don’t mean to get ragey but…” I’m going to mention it on Twitter so that you all know I’m being ragey. I’m assuming this means you want to debate this, here and now? ;-)
Of course we DON’T all know how you feel personally. We can only create and use analogies based on our own experiences of life and relationships. The original comment also said “generalisations that are not necessarily helpful, but it grasps some of what’s sometimes going on”, which is a VERY good point to make because analogies don’t cover all bases. Just like labels, they help a bit, but aren’t always 100% useful for your particular purposes. Just saying that we like an analogy doesn’t mean we consider it to be an unequivocable truth.
Assume nothing! ;)
No, I just think it’s worth looking at from the point of view of someone who has none of the traditional security, none of the societal respect, is being termed as ‘less’ and exposed to the suggestion that their relationships are somehow more disposable – at the same time as being asked to be independent, secure and respectful of the primary arrangement. I think it’s a real issue and one of the few that the poly-community themselves seem to perpetrate in-group.
I like @MoreThanNuclear’s suggestion that we, as a community, look at taking better care of the non-primaries…
On a wider note, I really do wonder if there is a secret niggling belief, even in-group, that secondaries by definition love their partners less? ..
[EDIT] Because type doesn’t always convey context too well, and lovely folk are starting to get upset; this is an interesting debate around a tough topic. No personal attacks meant or felt! :)
Wow, it is a big topic, isn’t it? Well done you for hitting some of the core issues dead-on, it’s shedding light on stuff I didn’t even know I hadn’t thought about properly before – even though I’ve experienced some of what you write about, in the sense that I’ve had a “secondary” partner, not that I’ve been one. I should perhaps try being one, I bet that would be illuminating also.
I still can’t bear to label that relationship as “secondary”, hence the quote marks. We didn’t co-habit, but there was no less commitment and emotion and all that stuff in it; on an emotional level, he sometimes felt like my “primary”, but of course there was no way to accurately express that without creating a huge stink all round. And it ended, whereas my marriage hasn’t, but in no way does that invalidate my point, though I’m sure naysayers would reckon it did.
Complex, and lacking in accurate language. I happen to think it would benefit all relationships, including monogamous ones, to develop a way of speaking about these matters.
[Heh, we maxed out the reply threads! Go us!]
@MoreThanNuclear:
“No, because I don’t equate desire with commitment”
Good point, and (assuming a secondary could *want to go* as much as a primary could *want not to*) that nicely sits the difference outside of wants/desires and feelings and back into the cold hard realm of practicality which, as @Polly pointed out, we have (somewhere .. *scrolls through ALL the text!) agreed upon as a Primaryish quality.
Seriously though, ladies .. we should have our own debate show!
Yup, practicality. If, f’rexample, The Rake (to continue my pseudonyms from my own blog!) were to need to up sticks and move, for any reason, it would be *just as* disruptive to my life (and perhaps cause many more logistical problems) to insist on my staying put and splitting us into two separate households for x amount of time. Those logistical problems wouldn’t be as much of an issue for a partner I didn’t live with. None of that has anything to do with wants, desires or commitment levels.
Didn’t we talk about a podcast? ;)
Another thought: I find that this discussion *in itself* is resulting in me referring to my primary partner or primary relationship far more often than I ordinarily would! It’s not terminology I usually reach for.
I do wish you’d expanded on the bit at the bottom–the bit addressed to non-secondary partners. To me, that’s the crux of my problem with the primary-secondary-tertiary categories: the way that primaries sometimes view secondaries. The label itself puts a “less importance” on the secondary.